Conservatives House Members: Vote on a Straight Repeal of Obamacare
Rep. Matthew Gaetz (R-Fla.)
(CNSNews.com) — When asked if Congress had enough votes to pass a repeal of Obamacare, Rep. Matthew Gaetz (R-Fla.) said we should “call the bluffs” of Republicans who passed a repeal of Obamacare in 2016, but today say “now that we could actually get it done, I find myself wringing my hands, wetting the bed, and hiding under a table somewhere.”
At the Conversations with Conservatives discussion in the Rayburn House Office Building on Thursday, several conservative House members voiced their support of putting a full repeal of Obamacare up for vote and criticized Republicans for not following up on their campaign promise to repeal it.
A reporter asked, “I want to go back to what Congressmen Biggs said about the idea of outright repeal of the Afford Care Act. The president mentioned that as an alternative plan now before the Senate. It really did not come as much as a surprise, because they voted for this before and the House voted for it before.
“My question is twofold. One: Is there the votes in the House to actually have outright repeal, period? And two: What do you say when you get the very predictable charge from Democrats, almost certain, ‘people will lose their healthcare’?”
Rep. Andrew Biggs (R-Ariz.) (AZcentral)
Freshman Rep. Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.) answered, “Well, my position is real simple. I don’t think Mr. Gaetz or I have ever had the chance to vote on an absolute repeal, number one. Number two, you don’t know whether there’s the votes there because it never got put up here.”
He continued, “But it was always put up and voted on when we didn’t have a president who would sign such a bill. So my position has always been, let’s go ahead and put that thing on the floor. Let’s get it up there and look at the board of truth. And that’s what the voting board light’s about.”
“And if we do that, I would hope that we would have enough, because everybody on the Republican side ran on repeal, and this is a way to do it,” said Biggs.
“Now that’s number one,” he stated. “And the second part of your question is, I think, that if we do the delayed repeal that I suggest, you have plenty of time to put in whatever market-based solutions that you need to put in to make health insurance affordable and patients better.”
Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) pointed out that everyone except the freshman congressmen voted to repeal Obamacare, and it did not “cost you an election.” He said, “It’s not going to cost the majority. We all took that vote in the House and the Senate, and we came back. We all came back. So politically it’s right, as well as the right thing to do.”
Rep. David Brat (R-Va.) and Rep Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) added that the Freedom Caucus reintroduced a repeal bill with identical language to the one the House and Senate passed during the Obama administration. “It was a Rand Paul, Mark Sanford in the House, repeal bill, and [GOP] leadership would not allow that on the House Floor.”
Rep. Gaetz said, “And sometimes when we get to talking about what we have the votes for, we seem to fall victim to our own mythology. You know, I’ve had folks tell me, in leadership, not in the leadership, ‘Oh, well, if we put the vote on — the legislation on the floor that members of the 114th Congress had voted for dozens of times, we wouldn’t have the votes.’”
“There is no evidence to support that claim. And I think that history would tell us that saying, ‘I was for it before I was against it’ isn’t a winning political strategy,” Gaetz stated.
“And so, I think we should call the bluffs of those who say, ‘Well, when it wasn’t real, I was willing to vote to repeal Obamacare, but now that we could actually get it done, I find myself wringing my hands, wetting the bed, and hiding under a table somewhere,’” said Gaetz.
RAND PAUL: HEALTHCARE BILL IS “A GIANT BAILOUT SUPERFUND FOR INSURANCE COMPANIES”
“I’m not for any taxpayer money going to an industry that makes $15 billion a year.”
July 17, 2017 by Steve Watson
Republican Senator Rand Paul hit out at GOP healthcare legislation Sunday, warning that the bill isn’t a repeal and keeps the “fundamental flaw” of Obamacare.
“I think the longer the bill is out there, the more conservative Republicans are going to discover that it’s not repeal, and the more that everybody is going to discover that it keeps the fundamental flaw of Obamacare.” Paul said on CBS’ Face The Nation.
“It keeps the insurance mandates that cause the prices to rise, which chase young, healthy people out of the marketplace, and leads to what people call adverse selection, where you have a sicker and sicker insurance pool, and the premiums keep rising through the roof.” the Senator urged.
Paul noted that while Republicans have complained ad nauseum about Obamacare, they still intend to keep its core intact in their bill, expected to be further debated this week.
“And the reason you know Republicans acknowledge this is, they make a giant insurance fund to subsidize those prices.” Paul said.
“Basically, they’re subsidizing the death spiral of Obamacare.” the Senator exclaimed.
“So, for all Republicans’ complaints about the death spiral of Obamacare, they don’t fix it. They simply subsidize it with taxpayer moneys, which I just don’t agree with at all.”
Paul said he will be voting against the GOP bill because it is not consistent with his principles.
“it’s absolutely wrong. It’s not all consistent with conservative principles, free market principles, or being a Republican.” he said.
“And it also has nothing to do with repeal. I mean, we promised the voters for four elections. They elected us to repeal Obamacare, and now we’re going to keep most of the taxes, keep the regs (regulations), keep the subsidies, and create a giant bailout superfund for the insurance companies. I just don’t see it.”
“I’m not for any taxpayer money going to … an industry that makes $15 billion a year,” the Senator affirmed.
Paul outlined his own vision for replacing Obamacare, suggesting a system where “everyone in the individual market can join a group plan.”
“I’d let group plans be formed by anybody that wants to form them. Chamber of Commerce, a farm bureau, credit unions, you name it. I’d let anybody form an association. And what would happen is almost everybody would flee the individual market because it’s a terrible place,” Paul noted, explaining that “the insurance companies have gamed the system.”
“They get enormous profit from the group plans, and then they lose money in the individual markets and they whine, and they come to Washington, they write the bill, and they get bailed out. It’s a terrible situation.” Paul urged.
SENATE GOP’S HEALTHCARE PROBLEM IS NOT TRUMP
RINOs jeopardize repeal, replacement of Obamacare
July 17, 2017 by McClatchy
One big reason Senate Republicans are having trouble uniting around a plan to overhaul the nation’s health coverage is that a lot of them just don’t get along.
These intra-party clashes of personality and policy stymie the bill’s progress as much as any other political force. Sure, lawmakers are reluctant to side with President Donald Trump, particularly in traditional swing states such as Ohio or Wisconsin. And waiting in the House are conservatives who are wary of the latest Senate plan, crafted to win over centrists.
But what’s hurting the Senate’s effort to come together are the personal relationships. Or lack of them.
GOVERNMENT CAN’T FIX HEALTHCARE
Learn how government-run healthcare fails the American people
July 17, 2017
Former Member of Congress Bob McEwen explains why government cannot fix healthcare.