‘This Is Political Violence’: Milo Yiannopoulos Talks to Tucker About Berkeley Riots
Feb 3, 2017
One night after violent protests erupted at the University of California-Berkeley before his scheduled speaking engagement, conservative activist and journalist Milo Yiannopoulos joined Tucker Carlson to discuss the incident.
Yiannopoulos, a Breitbart News editor, said he was preparing for his speech on the campus Wednesday night when the ground floor of the building was stormed by protesters, violence broke out, and he was evacuated by his security detail.
“That is the price you pay for being a libertarian or a conservative on American college campuses,” Yiannopoulos said.
He argued that the mainstream media helped create this environment on college campuses by labeling ordinary conservatives “white supremacists,” “anti-Semites,” “racists” and “sexists” when they’re not.
“There’s an inevitable, obvious consequence to this,” Yiannopoulos said. “The media has created this environment in which it’s OK to say almost anything about somebody who is right of Jane Fonda.”
He said that people should have to answer for this “political violence,” because it’s only going to get worse.
“The establishment – the media, academic and entertainment establishment – has made certain sorts of political opinion – respectable, reasonable, mainstream opinion – impossible to express in public.”
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Breitbart Senior Editor MILO claimed that the left’s reaction to the violent Berkeley riot on Wednesday “tells you something very very clear about the left’s commitment to free expression,” on Friday’s edition of Breitbart News Daily on SiriusXM Patriot Channel 125, where he discussed the riot among other things with Breitbart Editor-In-Chief Alex Marlow.
“As you know, I’m a UC Berkeley graduate. I graduated in, I guess it was 2008 from there, so nine years ago,” said host and Breitbart Editor-in-Chief Alex Marlow. “My mother, Breitbart News copy-editor Wynn, was a flower child and graduated from Berkeley in 1969… She wrote a nice op-ed, and it’s about how she thinks free speech was never really a thing there.”
“There was something disingenuous about the free speech movement there in general, and when people claim the mantle of free speech, it is so often about an agenda. It’s not really about freedom of speech, Milo, and this is where I feel you and I really connected,” he continued. “You and I really are free speech purists… How amazing is it that a British, gay conservative is the standard-bearer of the free speech movement in the United States of America at this point?”
“I suppose it is slightly unusual, but then America has a long history of having to import Europeans to remind you of how great you are, and to encourage you to stay that way,” replied MILO. “Whether it’s Christopher Hitchens or Alexis de Tocqueville, Milo Yiannopoulos is merely the latest name added to that list. So I find it somewhat remarkable. On the question of whether people who always yell about free speech are doing so for a political agenda, you know what, only up until about ten years ago it might have been true. It might have been true that up until ten years ago, free speech was sort of a mask for being able to be mean about people, or sort of a mask for, what do you Americans say? An asshole?”
“Things have changed, and we’re now in a situation where if you want to be a free speech warrior, you have no option but to stand in opposition to the regressive left, to the powers, forces of social justice and feminism and Black Lives Matter,” he continued. “These all come from one end of the political spectrum, and if you do as you and I both do, and really believe in freedom of expression and creativity, and fun and joy and mischief and dissidence and irreverence, and all those other wonderful things that make life worth living, I don’t think you have any choice but to be Republican.”
“I did want to take the stage,” MILO explained. “I was so mad. Okay, I care about the free speech stuff, but I was really most mad because I had a beautiful custom Native American headdress with my name embroidered on. It was massive, beautiful… I was gonna look amazing, I was so excited about it, but yeah, I didn’t have to step on stage. I didn’t even have to go on stage to make my point. Those are the moments in culture where something shifts dramatically. When people don’t even need to speak and the whole country gives.”
In reply, Marlow added, “There’s no good response from the left, virtually, and the best one would be if they defend you and say ‘okay this has gone too far.’”
“There have been none, because a lot of them actually believe in this stuff. They actually believe it,” he proclaimed. “There is a group on the Berkeley campus that is pretty popular called By Any Means Necessary. It is a left-wing advocacy group that, by any means, they apparently mean smashing ATMs, setting fires, smashing school buildings, stopping people from going to class, stopping people from getting home from work, just essential terrorism.”
“And it isn’t just about smashing up property,” interrupted MILO. “I think all of us have limited sympathy for Bank of America and Wells Fargo at this point, but people were being attacked. People were being assaulted. There were people there who weren’t even Trump fans, who were just there because they’d heard about me and wondered what I might say, in line to get in, who were assaulted with blood streaming down their faces.”
“They were beaten up, beaten to a pulp, and there were people who were kicked and punched and beaten in the streets. This isn’t just about your typical ‘let’s destroy property, let’s loot, let’s break up cash machines, let’s put in windows of Starbucks (they don’t see the irony there) and Bank of America.’ This was people being brutally, physically assaulted,” MILO concluded. “That’s way worse, and the fact that the left cannot disavow it, cannot condemn it, and they won’t, they refuse. Even make excuses for it, like CNN is doing. It tells you something very very clear about the left’s commitment to free expression.”
In an interview broadcast Friday on Breitbart News Daily, author Ann Coulter talked about the violent demonstrations left-wingers have employed to shut down speech they dislike, notably Milo Yiannopoulos of Breitbart News at UC Berkeley this week.
SiriusXM host Alex Marlow contended that the mainstream media’s irresponsible use of terms like “fascist” and “white nationalist” for speakers who are not of the Left has laid the groundwork for violence against them.
“It is the rise of a genuinely violent fascist movement,” Coulter said of these left-wing gangs. “It would be as if the Nazis went around complaining about how the Jews were attacking them and oppressing them. That’s basically what we have going on now.”
She recalled how violent protesters shut down a Trump rally in Chicago during the 2016 presidential campaign. “It was amazing to me how many families with kids, and wives, and daughters, they continued to go out to see Trump. It is like my college speeches, something I’ve been doing for a long time. You know, you’ll have 20 speeches that are fine, and then suddenly, BAM! the violent mobs show up. You never know when it’s going to happen, so you have to be prepared all the time,” she said.
“But Americans still did come out. I think that was intended to reduce Trump’s crowds, and make it look like he was the one creating the violence. All of this, just for someone who says, ‘We have to take care of Americans first.’ That’s what they’re so upset about, Alex,” Coulter declared, returning to an earlier point about how the U.S. Congress is attempting to cut back on the cost of major programs for Americans, such as Social Security and Medicare, at the same time open-borders advocates insist on importing even more dependents.
“We can’t afford that. We can’t afford this. We have to raise the retirement age. No, stop! We gave at the office!” she exclaimed.
Coulter agreed wholeheartedly with President Trump’s threat to “withdraw all federal funding from Berkeley” if the college administration refuses to deal with violence.
“This is a genuine threat to democracy when people can’t engage in the first of the Bill of Rights, the very first one that’s mentioned: freedom of speech,” she warned. “This has been a burgeoning movement, particularly on our college campuses, for a long time.”
“In a calm, reflective moment, I think he should do the same thing with any colleges that have speech codes or need special ‘free speech zones’ where students and/or professors are disciplined for engaging in First Amendment speech,” she advised.
“This has absolutely been done before,” she noted. “The IRS has been used to say, ‘Sorry. If you’re collecting student aid, you can’t attend these colleges. We’re not sending any student aid to these colleges who don’t abide by…’ – and those were often kind of silly ‘principles’ being enforced, like Bob Jones University, that’s sort of a very hardcore fundamentalist Christian college. I’m a Christian. It has some beliefs – or it used to; I don’t know if they still do – but one was from the Tower of Babel. They wouldn’t allow interracial dating.”
“They had blacks, they had whites, and it was mostly a black-and-white country back then – in fact, scholarships for black students – but whites couldn’t date black students. Blacks couldn’t date white students,” she explained. “And I ought to add, because I looked this up at the time, there was very little dating of any sort. If you went on a date at Bob Jones, you had to have a chaperone with you. Anyway, there was no racial animus to this; it hit both races equally.”
“But for that, the IRS came down like a ton of bricks on Bob Jones University. No federal aid through student scholarships, as I recall. A student who had student aid could not attend that college. And now, we have a genuine fascist, violent fascist, movement rising up, and there’s not only no punishment, but taxpayers are paying for this? Oh, no, no, no. Second to immigration, the next biggest problem in this country is the universities and public schools,” she said.
Coulter said this climate of hatred and violent repression of dissent comes from the university administrations.
“These are not spontaneous movements,” she scoffed. “I described in my book Demonic on groupthink and mob behavior, that these are particularly lickspittle students that want to please the professor. And they know damned well their professors are opposed to everything Ann Coulter says and everything Milo says. It’s just like presenting a polished apple to the teacher. ‘Oh, teacher, here: I brought you a gift today! I went and protested Ann Coulter!’”
“At the risk of being snobbish, but telling you what the truth is, it doesn’t tend to happen at the Ivy League schools,” she observed. “Berkeley is weird. … The worst ones are the Jesuit colleges and the community colleges. I mean, at Harvard and Yale – and I’ve spoken at both places many times – Wellesley, Smith, my own alma mater Cornell, the kids are too – they want to challenge you intellectually. They’d be embarrassed to throw something.”
“Though I do think there is a new movement kind of sweeping through here,” she added, “at some of these schools, we’d be organized. We’d be ready to go. I’d give the speech. They could stand up at the mics. I’d take questions until they had collapsed from exhaustion. And usually at the tougher schools to get into, that’s how they want to be. They want to ask you a question and outsmart you. It’s when it is a three-year-old, who doesn’t have the power of speech or logic, and just throws food – so it would tend to be the lesser colleges.”
“The other thing is, when we would be prepared and have college Republicans and large men prepared to throw out any hecklers, sometimes the members of the administration would stop people – our people, who had rented the room had paid for me to come speak. Someone comes to disrupt and start heckling, they try to remove the heckler, and an administrator – this happened at Syracuse University – some dean of students stepped forward and said, ‘You can’t remove the heckler because you’re interfering with his free speech rights!’” Coulter said with astonishment.
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